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Today's rubbish cycling
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Posted 11 years ago #
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I sometimes tell the kids round here when their forks are backwards but I don't offer to mend them. I'd get the blame the next time they fell off.
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As I was walking across St Andrew Sq I spotted a chap on a bike cycling across the grass. Grey jogging bottoms, dark grey hooded top, on a bso, he weaved between people and hopped down the steps and out across the road, as it went green for peds heading for George St. All the ped lights are on green at the same time there and I spotted an older chat walking across George St looking at him holding up his hand. The guy just weaved behind him and looked back flicking a finger and geering at the older guy. He then weaved up George St to stop at the red light. When the ped lights came on he then just set off again.
I had to just ignore him and stop myself from pushing him over. Git! As he weaved past a line of taxis and through the red light, I thought, no wonder they think we're all the same!
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To the male cyclist, Heading north on NE path, about 415pm today between Roseburn bridge and the viaduct.
Two pedestrians approaching on my left, two dismounted cyclists on the right, and a random dog. I slow down. Then Iam passed by male cyclist who rung his bell and slalomed through this motley crew in front of me. Oh did I mention he didn't slow down.
Bell ringing is not mutually exclusive with slowing down!
Also he may require some assistance, so please check up this offer.
http://www.specsavers.co.uk/offers/2-for-1/Posted 11 years ago # -
Actually the other day, but still amusing...
I stop behind a cyclist at the junction at Grosvenor Crescent / Palmerston place. Some skin and bone roadie type in full Leopard Trek kit blasts past us both, and the red light on the ped crossing, but not through the red light further down.
This is met by really loud sighs, and deliberate huffing and puffing by the cyclist in front of me. Light goes green, and the guy in front of me tries to race skin and bone man to no avail.
Skin and bone man then continues to cycle on the pavement that goes past the Church to Manor place. Guy in front of me audibly sighs and puffs again as he dismounts to walk on the pavement. Skin and bone man disappears down Manor Place, we reach the end of pavement and both get back on our bikes.
He then turns LEFT, and cycles the wrong way down Manor Place which is ONE WAY. I thought that was priceless, so I sighed and huffed and puffed as loud as could to make sure he heard me. ;)
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Dear sir,
To the cyclist who passed me on the inside this morning, on the Drylaw path. I apologise for my language and calling you a poser.
However I do NOT apologise for calling you a a******e or describing your road sense as lacking. I had just passed on my left a pedestrian and was moving back left when you appeared on my left, luckily for you I didn't keep going!
keep left, pass on the right.
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Rather lucky cyclist on Saturday who, fortunately for her, chose the right driver to be a muppet around.
I was driving down Leven Street, stopped at red lights, indicating left to go into Gilmore Place. Lights go green, we start moving (there was a cyclist in front as well so I was giving him space), just before starting to turn left I check my left mirror and there's a cycle-chic girl on a cycle-chic bike who is whizzing downhill and in the cycle lane and showing no signs of slowing as she approaches my left side. Sure enough, with me still indicating, and having been moving for quite some time, and visible to her for ages, she shoots straight by me on the left and goes straight on. I'd stopped by this point, not particularly willing to commit a left hook. Silly silly girl.
This morning, coming into the Meadows, lights red at the big crossroads, four or five cyclists all stopped at the lights as the ped phase comes on, save one muppet who goes up onto the pavement for a short distance, then uses the ped crossing area to skip the lights and rejoins the road on the other side. I did point out that the lights were still red. I did pass him further through the Meadows silently. I did position myself at the next red lights to be 'in the way'.
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Lots of pavement cyclists this morning. Mind you there was also silly driving, including RLJs and some suicidal mass crossing of the road in front of me (cue screams - from me).
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Silly joggist running into the sun launched himself onto the road infront of me without looking this morning. Think the sudden clemency of the weather has gone to everyone's heads.
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Silly lady cyclist riding up Bellevue and then Broughton St, who slowed for the red lights at Bellevue Pl, and at the foot of Broughton St, but who when the peds had passed just ploughed through the RED LIGHT.... Really gets my goat, and I made some quiet ouch noises as I bit my tongue, as I passed her.
And the cyclist who cycled up here:
against the ONE WAY flow of traffic coming off the A90 usually doing 50+mph!!
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Maroon hoodied, sunglassed, upright idiot on a hybrid that looked like a women's Ed bike coop one came rocketing past me on amber on broam street which was fair enough as maybe he knew the cycle. Then we got through the next two bits (of course I over him after about 150 meters. I was slowing for the red at the junction with bread street and he comes rocketing through swerving around pedestrians.
I shouted after him and he turned and shouted something back which I couldn't hear, I imagine his voice was dulled by his clear guilt, but he had to turn all the way around to look back at me suggesting he has 0 peripheral vision.
He then I think must have jumped the junction with western approach as he was approaching the west end before I got close to catching him and I had to get to work. But be warned maroon man, If I ever catch you you will be getting a STERN talking too.
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Ruth Cameron (@armadillojam)
11/05/2013 19:26
unimpressed by cyclists piling onto road in front of me against the lights at Commie Pool this morning @CyclingEdin #benicetoothercyclists"
ERC?
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Yeah, sounds like it was probably the 09:30 ERC crowd.
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I made a couple of faux pas today on a training ride at lunch time. Misjudged some of the traffic lights with no filter lane and found myself accidently popping out in front of a few cars. Nothing too bad but I still felt bad!
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it was definitely me this evening! Misjudged the roundabout junction going down queens drive with the high street. I was going far too fast and when a previously unseen car turned right across me I simply didn't have the brakes to stop in time. Swung left and pulled in to apologise, luckily the hot hatch didn't care enough to stop but was paying just enough attention not to kill me! In my defence even if he hadn't been so close to the bike car in front as to be unnoticed he wasn't indicating. I think I need to put decent pads on the racer.
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Twice now I've been behind other cyclists turning from Teviot Place onto MMW across the pavement there and not giving way to the pedestrians already on the pavement. Bad manners and no need for it on the basis of lost momentum, as you have the down hill to come. Really annoys me and last night the peds had to stop dead in their tracks. I gave way to them and they were clearly spooked by the near miss.
On a related MMW point - there are give way lines at each end of MMW so bikes can wait at the lights without blocking the pavement for the peds going at right angles to MMW. So many cyclists seem to be oblivious to the fact that they blocking the path and for no benefit.
Manners work both ways.
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Ah! I wondered why those lines were there. I wrongly? took it to mean take care as you cycle over footpath to get to the crossing. Not wait here till lights change.
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"I wrongly? took it to mean take care as you cycle over footpath to get to the crossing. Not wait here till lights change."
That's how I read it. You wouldn't expect to see a give way line at a light controlled junction (at least, not when cars are involved - things are probably less consistent when it's for bikes).
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As earlier - the give way sign refers to vehicles on the main road and not people on the pavement.
"The standard give way double lines (1003) has a strict meaning:- you mustn't cross it so as to endanger a driver or passenger of another vehicle or to cause another vehicle to change course or speed to avoid an accident."
(the actual rules are buried somewhere in the traffic signs regs - I think it was dug out in a topic about NMW).
So, while it might be (arguably) rude to wait right at the road, it's by no means contraindicated by the markings.
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And if you wait behind the lines for the lights to change, you are still going to confilct with pedestrians going along the pavement when you are able to go forward? Is there a lot of pedestrian cross-traffic?
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Debatable
Rule 71 of the HC states:
"You MUST NOT cross the stop line when the traffic lights are red"While Rule 81 has:
"Cycle-only crossings. Cycle tracks on opposite sides of the road may be linked by signalled crossings. You may ride across but you MUST NOT cross until the green cycle symbol is showing"I think we'd determined before that the cycle crossing at either end of MMW is technically separate from the pedestrian crossing (if it's shared then you don't have to stop for the lights), so a cyclist must stop at the lights, and if a stop line is provided then they must stop behind that stop line (Rule 71 doesn't actually say it's limited to stop lines on the road).
Like I say, not certain, but debatable either way. But to be honest I think that's all obfuscation anyway, rudeness is rudeness, don't block the pavement.
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@fimm, from rule 62:
"Take care when passing pedestrians, especially children, older or disabled people, and allow them plenty of room. Always be prepared to slow down and stop if necessary"I've said before (though some may disagree) bikes on shared use paths are like cars to us on the road. And the bigger, more capable of causing damage, should defer to the more vulnerable (i.e. bikes should have priority over cars, pedestrians should have priority over bikes)
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@Wilmington's Cow I agree with the bikes/cars/pedestrians analogy.
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If you're going to make some sort of uncharitable mocking-sounding shouting noise at someone who's just pulled over out of the following traffic with a punctured rear tyre, try not to follow it up with a failure to notice the street-skoosher swinging into the bus lane a little bit further ahead, making it squeal to a stop when you dive past its nearside.
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Appreciate Glasgow occurence, but somewhat gob-smacking,and worthy of noting, male cyclist travelling north through the bus station, not the bit where the buses, or the "plaza" bit where the shops are but the congested bit where the seats and loads of pedestrians are. Don't know if he was stopped.
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Forgot to report it last week, but was walking back from pub c. 1AM last Wednesday night / Thursday morning. As I waited for lights to change at end of MMW to cross to Argyle Place, a cyclist came past. On the wrong side of the road. With no lights. Closely followed by a police van (on the right side of the road) which sailed happily past and left the idiot to cycle down wrong the road. It would only take one taxi coming the other way to shorten someone's life considerably. I gave them a shout to point out they were on the wrong side. Assume it was a naive foreign student (or a naive, drunk foreign student) who thought the red tarmac lane meant they could go any direction on it.
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On my way back from my night ride, coming towards me along Gorgie Road, a guy in his mid to late 50s(?), entirely dressed in dark colours and with no lights. This at 11pm. I shouted at him but the only light-coloured thing he had on him obviously stopped him hearing me - earphones!
Darwin may just catch up with him...
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I've encountered a few cyclists going the wrong way on roads. I had one on London Road earlier this year, and I had a bus behind me, so I couldn't pull out round him, so I was forced to stop, and hope the bus could move round me. The other guy looked at me like I was an idiot, moved on to the pavement on carried on...
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Seems to be an abudance of RLJers and pavement cyclists over the last few days. Is it the nicer weather bringing them out?
Nearly every one I've seen looks like they should know better, e.g. proper cycling attire rather than neds in hoods.(sorry, is that comment hoodie-ist?)
Posted 11 years ago # -
@deckard: I'm never surprised when I see a 'yoof' on a creaky BSO, fiddling with a phone and weaving all over the road jump a red light. It is alarming when I see someone who I'd marked out as a competent cyclist (road bike, panniers, SPDs, helmet/hiviz etc) ride as if they're the only ones on the road (or pavement, for that matter).
Confession time for me: Yesterday I was heading onto Fords road via Saughton park, for which I have to navigate this very nasty blind corner:
I've seen quite a few cyclists over the years end up sprawled on a car bonnet since they aggressively took the inside line round while there was a car coming the other way. Fortunately the speeds are so low that nothing life threatening seems to happen but I'm always extremely cautious. In my usual manner, I had been through Saughton park and swung round very wide on the outside line onto Fords road. I had a car behind me and was also looking ahead to check nothing else was approaching. I failed to notice that there was a learner driver indicating to pull out from the left side, in amongst the parked cars, and I just about ended up slamming into his driver side door. Luckily we both saw each other early enough that he stooped and I could swerve out. Not really his or mine fault to be fair, just the nature of the corner and a consequence of ironically taking the 'safe' wide line around it. Felt bad about startling him though.
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