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Today's rubbish cycling

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  1. Frenchy
    Member

    @Min - Here?

    There's not even a dropped kerb to let people rejoin the carriageway!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. fimm
    Member

    Seeing as we're having a bit of a "think about your language" week...
    "All I found was no crossing and an old biddy yelling at me for riding on the pavement."
    You mean another vulnerable road user, who might have good reason to be concerned about being hit by a cyclist? In her eyes you're the same as SRD's two female mountainbikers. She doesn't know anything about (rule 2) infrastructure.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. unhurt
    Member

    And lack of proper infrastructure has us set against each other. It's like an (unintentional..?) version of "cut services, then encourage people who lose out to blame anyone but the actual architects (or beneficiaries) of the cuts".

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. Min
    Member

    Frenchy, not quite. It was Marionville Road up to London Road here. The shared path is on the right hand side as you look towards London Road.

    This view here (which if I link it will hopefully show the right bit) shows the shared use sign clearly on the lamppost next to the Meadowbank. This was about where I was when I got yelled at. But there is nowhere to go along London road from here unless you stay on the pavement, and no crossing.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. Min
    Member

    You mean another vulnerable road user, who might have good reason to be concerned about being hit by a cyclist? In her eyes you're the same as SRD's two female mountainbikers. She doesn't know anything about (rule 2) infrastructure.
    "Biddy" wasn't the word I really wanted to use.

    Do you think she is sitting at home right now angsting about the way she spoke to me and worrying about the possibility that perhaps she was the one who was mistaken (as indeed she was)? No of course she isn't.

    And I am not going to do so either.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. gembo
    Member

    We may have been talking about the Abbey Hill objector to cyclists on twitter today in former PY. THe AbbeyHIll Twitter person feels she has been hit five times by cyclists.

    A few years ago I encountered a person standing in the middle of the towpath just after bridge at Meggetland. I stopped my bike to avoid any conflict as no way round. However a bit of a Mexican stand off ensued as I feel she wanted me to dismount and push around her.

    In similar vein I have been shouted at for slowing to a stop to pass a dog on the WoL path, possibly because a cyclist in front had not slowed (though on speaking to him he says he did)

    These things happen what can we do but cherish each other, as Bono sang.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. Rosie
    Member

    Good cycling today. Kiddies out in Roseburn Park playing on their new Christmas presents. I came round a corner and stopped, thinking about which way to go. Boy of 10 thought I was stopping to let him past and said Thank you very nicely.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. the canuck
    Member

    acsimpson: "Canuck. We clearly don't need to know the gender of said cyclists but I wonder in light on the gender comments how much relevance their age had to the story? Would you have been less please to see them active if they were older?"

    more context from me would have been good, as in Stickman's comment.
    i'm always happy to see teens using their bikes as transport.
    1. kids today are ferried everywhere because apparently there are body snatchers on public transit or something.
    2. if they are using bikes as transport now, hopefully they'll become adults who cycle to work.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. gembo
    Member

    Slim Lycra with big alpkit saddle bag weaving n front of bus and turning right up Queensferry street despite red light. Bus driver tooting and shouting. He had only tooted at peds who moments earlier had tried to throw themselves in front of his speeding vehicle

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. rider73
    Member

    i had to cycle one handed today and home last night as my other hand was trying to keep my light pointing forward as the bracket on it seems to now for some reason slip off the handlebars no matter how much i tighten it up.
    the light either suddenly droops backwards and blinds me or down to the road and all goes dark :-(

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. neddie
    Member

    The guy on MMW walk who, after searing the corner of my retina with his uber-bright light, decided to overtake during which his pedal unscrewed, leaving me to avoid a wibble wobble gentle slowdown into the verge.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. Frenchy
    Member

    Cyclist on S Clerk St this evening was too busy texting to stop for the red light at the pedestrian crossing I was using.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. SRD
    Moderator

    Idiot in trendy rolled up jeans / single speed bike wobbled across in front of me in queue at Viewforth junction, just as cars began moving. then went up the side of the right turn lane at King's, only to then join left turn lane, and then go across live traffic to enter Tarvit in wrong direction .

    fashion victim likely to also be road accident victim?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. gembo
    Member

    I was cycling very slowly in very primary position this morning, undertaken by three different cyclists who must have liked cyucling in slush. I was slow though

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. the canuck
    Member

    how do people cycle and text? i do well not to cycle into parked cars.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Was maybe me today? I was looking to turn right from Causewayside into Hope Park Terrace and the cars looking to turn right the opposite way...one went behind me and the other turned in front of me. Not dangerous but weird. I must have been a centimetre too far somewhere or something. I wasn't fully concentrating right enough so I deserved to be flattened really.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. Greenroofer
    Member

    The one who turned behind you was doing it properly, as I recall. It's either Roadcraft or the Highway code that says to turn right behind each other, as it gives a much better view of oncoming traffic. It's rarely done, though.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    @iwrats I don't think I've ever seen motor vehicles turning 'offside to offside' there ie behind each other. Besides, on a bike, it entails cycling in close proximity in front of a vehicle who may assume you will pass 'nearside to nearside' if it sees the other traffic lanes free - not great.

    Either method seems legally acceptable according to this: https://www.diaryofanadi.co.uk/?p=6684

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. ejstubbs
    Member

    @Greenroofer: The rule is still there (and I was taught it when I learned to drive) but I'm pretty sure the wording has been modified over time.

    Rule 181

    When turning right at crossroads where an oncoming vehicle is also turning right, there is a choice of two methods

    1. turn right side to right side; keep the other vehicle on your right and turn behind it. This is generally the safer method as you have a clear view of any approaching traffic when completing your turn
    2. left side to left side, turning in front of each other. This can block your view of oncoming vehicles, so take extra care. Cyclists and motorcyclists in particular may be hidden from your view. Road layout, markings or how the other vehicle is positioned can determine which course should be taken.

    What the Highway Code doesn't say about turning right is: if you're first in line at a red light wanting to turn right and there's traffic waiting to come towards you, the correct procedure is to 'anticipate' the green light a bit and floor it so that you'll be so far across the opposite lane that the slowcoaches coming the other way who were dopey enough to actually wait for the green light before moving then have to brake to avoid running in to you. Note also that accelerating hard with the front wheels on full lock is an excellent way to demonstrate to all the other road users what supreme car control skills you have (especially if you do it one-handed because you're on the phone/drinking coffee/picking your nose at the same time).

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. fimm
    Member

    So I'm waiting to turn right, and I can see two busses coming from my left, and nothing from my right, so when the second bus has passed I set off and nearly cycle into the side of a small van that was hidden behind the second bus.
    ALWAYS check one more time...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  21. the canuck
    Member

    me.
    the purpose of a back up light is to be available when one needs it.
    not to be sitting on one's desk at home.

    fastest cycle home, ever. (i was only really illegal the last 100m.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  22. LaidBack
    Member

    @the canuck Fast cycling helps to keep rear closing spedd down on unlit bikes. Cycling slowly with no rear light is more dangerous (discuss!)?

    Laid Back Bikes managed to tip his Carry Freedom bike trailer somehow. Gilmore Place blocked briefly near Sisters of the Poor. No damage but did hold traffic up (v embarassing).
    Thanks to other cyclists and peds for helping.
    E-bike to blame. Hit pothole (or side gust) and load shifted - manually I would have been slower and nothing much would have happened.
    Load stayed on as doubled up with bungees and inners. Just pulled trailer over.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  23. fimm
    Member

    I somehow managed to pull out in front of a car on a roundabout - fortunately I managed to avoid it. I genuinely don't know how I didn't see it - I can only assume I was paying too much attention to the car behind me...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  24. wingpig
    Member

    Whooshing numpster cycled through one red light going down Leith Street then stopped so far ahead of the next one that they couldn't see the light when it changed, which would surely be at odds with their need for whooshingness?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  25. Trixie
    Member

    Me. First time on bike since before xmas. My legs have all the integrity of overcooked pasta now, it seems.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. ejstubbs
    Member

    To the chap on the road bike and wearing what looked like a Team Sky jersey on Oxgangs Road this morning: I know it's a cycle lane, but you may wish to reflect on the wisdom and politeness of trying to use it to overtake a bus which is approaching a stop where passengers are waiting...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. the canuck
    Member

    "@the canuck Fast cycling helps to keep rear closing speed down on unlit bikes.
    Cycling slowly with no rear light is more dangerous (discuss!)?"

    well, i had 2 rear lights, just to do penance for the missing front. i have heard this thing about slow cycling being more dangerous, but i've managed to jig this particular route so that most roads i'm on have almost no cars. i'm sure i could shave 4 minutes off my route if i actually put some oomph into it.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. piosad
    Member

    Me yesterday at home time, in a rush to get to after school pick-up on time, turning right from Gilmore Place into LGP, came into conflict with a mum and a small child on a balance bike who were already crossing. Not any real danger of collision, but the cyclist coming in the opposite direction told me I could have stopped and let them past, and they were right.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  29. wingpig
    Member

    Whoosh whoosh weave swerve went the turnip, through the jumbled vehicles on York Place and the cones blocking half the road after Frederick St. Whoosh they went, diving up Castle Street through a clearly red light. As they only emerged from the end of George Street when I was already at the lights on North Charlotte Street I got to see them doing more swervey whooshing on their way up to Princes Street.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. I were right about that saddle
    Member


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