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Today's rubbish cycling

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  1. Rosie
    Member

    I showed the above comments to the LRT driver, who said,

    @ stiltskin - Bus drivers are trained to share the road space responsibly with all road users, pedestrians and cyclists included. But the thought behind that is that all road users should be taking responsibility for their own safety. It's not good practice for any road user to assume that everyone else will look out for them. LRT defensive driving training does emphasise that the bus driver must anticipate other road users' movements - "expect the unexpected". But it would be prudent for cyclists to do the same.

    Also, he did add that if an LRT driver has even the smallest incident, s/he is subject to stringent disciplinary procedures.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. rust
    Member

    I think LRT drivers are some of the best at anticipating cyclists movements, however I thing stiltskin's point was that a cyclist going round a parked cark IS (or should be) the expected.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  3. stiltskin
    Member

    @rust. I believe you may be the love child I have never acknowledged......

    yes, that was my point ;-)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  4. fimm
    Member

    I hope it is not wingpig's observational movements that are being criticised - as his camera is obviously mounted on the frame of his bicycle...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. StepRam
    Member

    @wingpig can I ask what kind of Camera your using? I have my Eye on a GoPro sometime down the line...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  6. wingpig
    Member

    The Contour Roam, the cheapest of the Contour range when I got it about this time last year (after returning a MUVI for having a rattly button). Doesn't do GPS stuff but is waterproof straight out of the box and has a standard camera tripod thread. Requires an additional mount to get it attached to a helmet and required some bodging to get it onto the bike but only because I didn't buy one of those Minoura bike-handlebar-camera mounts.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  7. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Was maybe me... Well I didn't think it was but the chap opposite's face told a different story...

    Cycling into town on NEPN at Siverknowes?, attending to an itchy back, so one handed. Spot branch on path so react to miss it and pull out 12 or 18 inches from side, certainly no where near as far out as middle of path. Sure the guy oposite thought I was going to hit him. Honest, it was all under control ;)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  8. custard
    Member

    No,it was definitely me
    heading to work around 0400
    coming up the Broomhouse path to the lights at Saughton Road north
    I had a complete mental moment and forgot about the left hand filter for traffic coming up Saughton Road Nth
    So traffic going to Broomhouse drive had a green light & roght hand filter
    I shot over the road to the path on the other side without thinking
    Had a car been coming up S Road Nth,it would have been messy for me and completely my own fault. I was pushing to do a decent time :o
    SMIDSY defence for me?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  9. Rosie
    Member

    @ wingpig,fimm

    "I hope it is not wingpig's observational movements that are being criticised - as his camera is obviously mounted on the frame of his bicycle... "

    Is it? Where on the cycle is it mounted exactly?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. Kenny
    Member

    @Rosie, despite not being fimm or wingpig, I also have a Contour and have it attached to my bike. It's on the front right fork, and thus you can see the wheel in the shot, but I think it bizarrely makes a better shot:

    Although I don't have a Roam, the one I have is pretty much identical in size, thus I suspect it too would attach to the frame with no problems.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. wingpig
    Member

    Mine's on the bar immediately to the left of the stem clamp. It tends to drift clockwise and ends up including the right shifter in shot.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  12. Kenny
    Member

    Yep, that happened to me, although mine ended up facing the ground. It's stationary as a rock on the fork.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  13. fimm
    Member

    @Rosie it is obviously mounted on the frame/handlebars because you can see the brake/gear lever & cable to the right of the still (I haven't watched the video). There is no way a head mounted camera would show that view of the bike parts. Therefore your friendly bus driver cannot say anything about wingpig's head movement because the camera is not attached to his head...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  14. SRD
    Moderator

    ...was possibly not the chap on the red paperbike with dynamo lights at the Kings intersection. I';m still not sure.

    usual thing - light changed i headed across only to have bike/car combo give me the feeling they were about to cut out at me. Car was definitely trying to get cycle to go - luckily he didn't nudge the guy's rear wheel. driver looked confused. probably doesn't know intersection.

    cyclist seemed to think my gesticulation/comment was aimed at him, but it wasn't (probably).

    Posted 11 years ago #
  15. Nelly
    Member

    2 spots today - Glasgow road about 7 - a girl almost cycled under a taxi, good evasive action (I was hiding behind my hands).

    Tonight, some roadie dude cycling the West Approach between murrayfield and lothian road - in rush hour.....

    Posted 11 years ago #
  16. Uberuce
    Member

    Chap with windproof amounts of product in his immaculately sculpted hair and a toddler in the childseat.

    Straight through a pedestrian red at the Viewforth/Gilmore lights and then quite happily struck out for a right turn at the roundabout, even though he plainly should have ceded priority to the driver coming from Polworth Gardens, ie on his right. She had moved out cautiously after having ceded priority to a driver on her left so there was never any real danger of collision, but the way he glared at her* as he forced her into stopping was vexing.

    *he was of course wearing hipster shades so I can't be sure of this, but given body language and his previous insouciant RLJ, I came to this conclusion.

    If you are going to use your child as a moral weapon, at least be on the actual high ground before opening fire.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  17. wingpig
    Member

    Racing-looking numpty going the wrong way round the hill on the road in the dark with no lights.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  18. Rosie
    Member

    @ Nelly I've seen various people cycling along the Western approach road. Young fit roadies.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  19. kaputnik
    Moderator

    There's a guy at my work who cycles in once or twice a week on an old red hard-tail MTB (I'd hazard a guess it was formerly a ladies' bike from the pink grips, but that may be sun-bleached red).

    Anyway, he usually sets off for home a few minutes before me and I consistently catch him up in a few minutes only to lose him at every junction and set of lights as he sails through every red and jumps onto the pavement at every opportunity to avoid stopping / waiting.

    While I find his behavious thoroughly stupid, it's an interesting demonstration to me of just how inadequate our junctions are for cyclists - I have to put in a great deal of effort to reel in someone who's just pootling along, as I consistenly have to stop and wait for minutes on end while the queueus of single-occupant cars take priority. I normally manage to get him at Diggers, as he does along Gorgie Road and I along Slateford, but on occasion he gets me back at bottom of Viewforth by going through the red.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  20. algo
    Member

    I've ridden the Western Approach Road from Murrayfield to Lothian road by mistake - there were roadworks and they'd taken down the no-cycling sign and I stupidly had no idea - it was the first time I'd been that way. It became apparent very quickly that it is a daft place to cycle, predominantly as the coaches and taxis know you shouldn't be cycling there and don't give you any room. I won't be doing that again.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  21. custard
    Member

    not really cycling
    however the heavily obese guy on a mobility scooter(no idea whats what with these) coming along Morrison St and right onto Lothian Rd.
    Scared the life out of me. very slow and low down
    genuinely feared for his life!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  22. gembo
    Member

    Noticed a lot of very slow cyclists at the moment. Not a bad thing, good to get new people on their bikes, they are just not very good at it. Neither was I to start with.

    Had a gang of slow moving RLJ cyclists this morning along viewforth managed to catch them on way round to Lothian road which cheered me but as kapps alludes to, I had to dig deep to do it whilst keeping legal

    Posted 11 years ago #
  23. rust
    Member

    To the women on the bike behind me who was surprised when I stopped at the zebra crossing on Chambers Street, just because the car in front kept going while people were waiting to cross doesn't mean I'm going to.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  24. Zenfrozt
    Member

    Technically yesterday, walking down from games hub towards tollcross, a guy on a skinny racer decked out on lycra came towards me at speed on the pavement. I had to dive and scramble out of the way. He would have hit me had I not Moved. Fine for a fit healthy person but if I had had a buggy, or a wheelchair or had been an elderly person he would have hit me. He genuinely frightened me and that is fairly hard to do.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  25. algo
    Member

    Yesterday at around 8ish, as I was coming down Torphichen place to turn right onto Torphichen Street, taking a strong primary in the right lane with an aggressive rubbish truck behind me revving its engine, I had to take evasive action as a cyclist decided to use the right lane to cycle the wrong way towards Morrison Street ... I was not best pleased - no children on board thankfully.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  26. deckard112
    Member

    Pavement cyclists....everywhere...all over the place! Must be that large orange orb in the sky making people confused.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  27. Stickman
    Member

    Jaw-dropping idiocy from the chap on the mountain bike who just cycled up the wrong side of Lothian Road and round onto princes street. Narrowly avoided being hit by a bus coming round the corner.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  28. gdm
    Member

    Had to give mention to the immense idiocy of the young woman (looked like a student) on a Pashley-esque number going from Hope Park Terrace onto Melville Drive, though the junction at rush hour. I heard her before I saw her, as she was nattering away on her mobile as if she was tootling along to the farmers market down the village back lanes.

    Couldn't believe it. Especially as Melville Drive just at the start there is pretty rough going.

    I gave her a piece of my mind when I passed her so I'm sure she'll think again before doing something so silly in future. Mm-hmmm!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  29. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Confessed today that I misinterpreted the changing light sequence back-to-front as I was crossing Whitehouse Loan on the Leamington Path and also got T-boned by a car that set off on amber.

    My own fault and shouldn't have gambled that it was on it's way to change to red (it wasn't!) and shouldn't have interpreted pedestrian stepping out on other side as knowing what he was doing any better.

    No harm done though, realised I made a mistake and took avoiding action around the imminent obstruction. Woke me back up though.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  30. EddieD
    Member

    I've ridden the Western Approach Road from Murrayfield to Lothian road by mistake


    Interestingly, the signs on the WAR now seem to be triangular with a picture of a bike, not round with a picture of a bike.

    Certainly saved me a lot of time going to the market today.

    Posted 11 years ago #

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