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Today's rubbish cycling

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  1. ih
    Member

    @Rob I thought about this at the time but didn't post. It is entirely the car driver's fault for ending up where he did.

    But, I thought the guy on the bike made the right without signalling or even checking behind him. So, I would say "bad cycling" but that doesn't excuse the car driver.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. The positioning of the car is one which was cutting the corner whether the cyclist was turning or not. If the cyclist had been going straight on, or not even been there at all, I suspect the driver would still have taken exactly the same line in. There was no swerve to avoid the cyclist, viewed full screen especially he had started moving to the right long before the 'sudden' shift right by the cyclist.

    Bad cycling, but I don't think it affected the driver in any form whatsoever.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. davidsonsdave
    Member

    To me, the cyclist looks like they are on or close to the centre line from the start of the clip and the car was planning to overtake them at the wide junction despite any oncoming traffic.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. Rob
    Member

    "But, I thought the guy on the bike made the right without signalling or even checking behind him."

    She does signal. It's hard to make out but her arm goes out just after entering shot then back to the bars just before the turn.

    Whether she signalled early enough is another question.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. nobrakes
    Member

    Me, this morning, emerging through the gate at the top of the innocent railway tunnel which is a very tight squeeze on the recumbent, particularly with a wing mirror sticking out, losing control at very low speed and toppling over. Luckily, the rather fast DF cyclist behind me had turned off at the far end of the tunnel and I therefore escaped unobserved.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. Rob
    Member

    @WC and @davidsonsdave my thoughts exactly. I'm going with troll.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. jdanielp
    Member

    Just to weigh in on the video being discussed above it is bad driving all the way from my perspective - the cyclist is clearly in the middle of the road prior to turning and I would assume that she had signalled already even though it isn't clear from the clip. Even if she hadn't done so, the driver shouldn't be overtaking based on her road positioning.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. algo
    Member

    @Rob - sean sean is a well-known troll - look at pretty much any cycling video - he is an antagonistic moron. No question in my view the car is wholly in the wrong

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. CJC
    Member

    The oncoming cyclists who overtook other cycles on the canal towpath, on a narrow section, on a blind corner, last night. I braked sharply and managed to avoid the first, my shouting of "watch out" and wide mountain bike handlebars forced the second to quickly stop, but not before she forced her way past another cyclist.

    Why overtake on a blind corner? Just wait 30 seconds for the path to straighten out.

    The cyclists they were overtaking weren't even going very slowly.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. Greenroofer
    Member

    Complete idiot in bright green on the towpath this morning. He came bombing down the stony shortcut off the bridge to the WoL path, and joined the towpath so fast that it took him the whole width to straighten up. He obviously hadn't looked to see if anything was coming and had I been a second earlier he would have hit me. As it was I had to steer off the towpath onto the canal bank to avoid him. I must confess that I swore at him, which is unlike me.

    ...and no, I wasn't going too fast.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Greenroofer

    I came down there in bright green a couple of days ago, but with all due caution and all brakes feathered.

    I suspect my doppelganger has been surprised by the steep and rocky nature of the informal chute in question. It should really be closed. Swearing can be quite cathartic - hope it worked for you.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. jdanielp
    Member

    I've noticed an increase in the number of inconsiderate canal towpath cyclists in the last week or two now that the schools are back, especially in the mornings in the vicinity of town where multiple cyclists blindly follow an initial overtaker, regardless of oncoming traffic. I will be intrigued to see what affect the closure has...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @jdanielp

    Have you met the new Bike Hub manager yet? He is a charming fellow of my acquaintance.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. jdanielp
    Member

    @IWRATS not yet, but glad to hear that it's in good hands.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. geordiefatbloke
    Member

    Ill-mannered cyclist in a blue top, riding a silver mountain bike at about 9am who undertook me at the junction of Gray's Loan and Polwarth Terrace, forcing me to go much wider into the lane than I wished, and subsequently causing me to brake so I could drop behind her. She then failed to indicate to turn left onto Spylaw Road, despite various other forms of transport around her which would have benefited from that knowledge (the queue of cars waiting to turn right onto Spylaw Road, for example ...)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. cc
    Member

    Going along Melville Drive yesterday in the afternoon rush hour, a guy apparently pretending he was in the Tour de France - elbows down on the handlebars, pumping at full speed straight through red lights at a pedestrian crossing which people were walking across.

    "These cyclists are a menace", said a shocked road-crosser, and I couldn't blame him.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Nearly got clattered by a bike for the first time ever today.

    Jogging on a shared use path and about to hang a right up an overgrown footpath when I just caught the sound of tyres behind me.

    Female roadie whooshed past at a good clip, no bell, no friendly hail but lights full on in the middle of the day.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Two chumpasaurus rexes today.

    First was a sleepy student on a black and lime Revolution who came out of the west end of Hillside Crescent, across London Road through a line of queuing cars and vans that entirely obscured his view to the left, only to emerge in the bus lane at ramming speed and directly infront of me, perpendicular to my direction of travel. Heavy braking prevented catastrophe.

    Second was captain gnarly MTB with the bright blue Knog-style helmet with Gopro on top who came up Hanover Street, crossed over to the wrong side using the traffic island at the top, round the corner onto George Street on the right hand side of the road, then along George Street about 1/3 of the block before cutting through the central parking onto the correct side of the road. I saw him shouting and gesticulating as he emerged from the median, I assume he either met a friend or more likely was having cross words with someone who took exception to his levels of gnarl.

    Apart from that it was a good commute. Not too many 4-wheel idiots and seemed to catch most of the lights at green. And either there was a tail wind or oiling my chain has had a boosting effect.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. I was overtaken by a tall looking cyclist on Dalziel Place (London Road) this am whilst waiting at a Red Light (Ped Crossing!)

    Despite being significantly taller than me, he waouldn't have been able to see through the crew bus thingy that was partialy blocking the crossing to my right. Stupid and dangerous cycling, not just rubbish.

    He ran the red at the Marionville Junction too and filtered into the heavy stream of traffic approaching from MR. Bottled it or realised the error of his mways at the Junction with Abbey lane through.

    Another bloke citybound at the Riversdale Crescent obstruction decided not to dismount for 10 yards and cycle along the pavement instead. It was quiet, me dismounting made his passage easier, so no *real* biggie though. What made me think it rubbish was his wearing of a headcam. If you are going to wear a camera to capture other folks bad road use, you should probably be a model road user yourself.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. kaputnik
    Moderator

    If you are going to wear a camera to capture other folks bad road use, you should probably be a model road user yourself.

    That's what post-production edits are for!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. paddyirish
    Member

    "That's what post-production edits are for! "

    Is that not how the justice system works? You need to provide unedited footage for a prosecution, but that means that the rest of your journey is open to inspection for the tiniest error on your part and then it will obviously be all your fault because you had a wobble 4 miles before the incident...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. Young chap on a very new-looking electric bike who tried to cycle up the inside of the 22 bus I was on at Picardy Place heading Leithwards last night.

    Unfortunately, he chose to do so as we passed Sherlock's statue and the lane starts rapidly narrowing. Once he could see what was happening, rather than hit the brakes & drop back he decided to try and keep going. This he did until he ran out of space completely and the bus was squeezing into his side; only at that point did he stop and try to climb onto the verge.

    A number of folk on the bus let out yelps as they saw what was happening, and I did for a second it was going to go horribly wrong. He was a VERY lucky young man.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. "... then it will obviously be all your fault because you had a wobble 4 miles before the incident..."

    In short, no.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Not so much rubbish cycling as rubbish bike maintenance on my part.

    Have been overlooking a mild "knocking" feeling from the front wheel when the brakes are lightly applied. Obviously a slight bump in the rim as it passes the block, nothing was visually obvious and I was waiting a little while more until getting both front and rear wheels rebuilt with new rims.

    On the way home from the PoP meeting last night, coming down the Royal Mile, braking over the bad cobbles just before St. Mary Street / Jeffrey Street, suddenly there was a tourist-scattering bang as the side-wall of the rim failed and the tube escaped. A strip about a foot long detached from the rim at one end, flapping about as the wheel revolved. Fortunately the rim opened up opposite to the direction of travel so the flap didn't work it's way into the brake blocks and do further damage / get fouled and throw me over the handlebars. I had to cable-tie the rim to stop it flapping against the fork and brakes to push the bike home.

    So, the moral of the story is don't ignore knocking feelings from your rim.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. wingpig
    Member

    Hmm. When my front wheel did that (without any prior warning) it was whilst going slowly on cobbles, with a rim which didn't look particularly thin in a post-mortem transverse section. Perhaps building in a few bits of cobble every day could help to shake these things out.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. fimm
    Member

    Apologies to the small person at the weekend on the Russell Road zigzags. He'd been getting brambles and moved back to his bike just as I passed. No impact (i was going slowly) but I should have said hello or something as I approached so that he (and he sibling and parent) knew I was there.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. nobrakes
    Member

    Out on a walk at lunchtime today, saw a guy on a road bike cycling no hands down the road with bike helmet and shopping bag in one hand, texting on his phone with the other.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Some pictures of last night's drama on the High Street

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. gembo
    Member

    Jeez in this movie do you receive such a close path that the reflective strip is scored out of your Gatorskin by the protruding brake cable of a numpty?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. Roibeard
    Member

    @Kaputnik - I confess I've also cycled rims to this stage...

    Are these not the "wear lines" advertised by some manufacturers, that can be used to alert you as to the need for rim replacement?

    Robert

    Posted 8 years ago #

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