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Diet v exercise

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  1. chdot
    Admin

    This one seems to go round in circles.

    "
    The idea that exercise is more important than diet in the fight against obesity has been contradicted by new research.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18985141

    Also

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    SCPHRP (@SCPHRP)

    26/07/2012 08:11
    Local UK news: 'Map of Croydon shows link between obesity, poverty and fast food'

    http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/Map-Croydon-shows-link-obesity-poverty-fast-food/story-16567492-detail/story.html

    #healthinequalities #obesity

    "

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. Min
    Member

    " but when corrected for size and weight, their metabolic rate was no different to that of Westerners."

    Erm...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. MeepMeep
    Member

    Without any real scientific grounding, I tend to live by the "working out and eating poorly is like doing your homework but not handing it in" rule.

    Everything in moderation.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. Min
    Member

    Or on other words it's diet AND exercise. What it is NOT is rocket science.

    I really don't think all the constant nit picking over exercise vs diet is really helping anyone.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Aye, both important. I'm a very good example of someone who enjoys pizza far too often.

    Cycle 130 miles a week, and still 3 stone overweight.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. amir
    Member

    The inference made on this BBC article does not appear at first sight very sound. It's based on observational info and seems rather speculative. I would place more weight on inference based on experimental data and for our local population.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    "it is NOT is rocket science"

    Might be if you're in Team Sky/GB.

    Wonder if they are allowed to go to the Stratford pop-up McDonalds?

    Or will they be in barracks eating bowls of Kellogg's.

    Won't be the Cadbury/Pepsi diet.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    "
    Clive Tobutt, public health lecturer at Croydon College's university centre, says the links are well established and that more intervention from the local authority is needed. He said:

    "There is a strong link between fast food and obesity, particularly on how it is advertised. Fast food and highly sugared drinks also tend to be cheaper than their healthier alternatives.

    "

    http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/Map-Croydon-shows-link-obesity-poverty-fast-food/story-16567492-detail/story.html

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

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    Joanna Blythman (@JoannaBlythman)

    26/07/2012 10:27

    So bad I think they mean. £5.99 worth of obesity in a bucket

    http://pic.twitter.com/JlEqiKfn

    "

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

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    CyclingSurgeon (@CyclingSurgeon)

    26/07/2012 11:33

    Time to get tougher on obesity? beginning of my cycling story 2009 #getactive #getonyourbike #getmoving

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8279577.stm

    @CTC_Cyclists
    "

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. Tulyar
    Member

    London 2012 is delivering soem fine subvertising and it's barely started

    https://twitter.com/Skip_Licker/status/228433622229741570/photo/1

    https://twitter.com/Skip_Licker/status/228438309754503168/photo/1

    and there's a brilliant bit of spliced up Boris doing the rounds as a spoof welcome to London 2012.

    The higher the shelf the more likely things will break when they fall off......

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. Claggy Cog
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  13. Claggy Cog
    Member

    @chdot - Chris Oliver had tried dieting for years with no success. He went for bariatric surgery having a gastric band put on, otherwise I suspect he would not have lost the weight, and he does say that this is not an option for most people. He maintains that he never considered that he ate too much but that he piled on the weight due to an inactive life, having gone from an Olympian hopeful to a morbidly obese man, due to his work and studying at uni. He ate too much for what he was doing...otherwise he would not have ballooned to 27+ stone. Since losing 11 stone he does a great deal of exercise because he can, at his largest he could not even manage to set of stairs without becoming completely breathless, and he reckons he would be dead if he had not undergone surgery.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. Min
    Member

    Oops, posted on the wrong thread. Should have been this one. Sorry.

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6595&replies=23#post-158049

    Posted 11 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    Would be fine in this thread, and this one -

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6668

    Posted 11 years ago #
  16. Min
    Member

    We do have a lot of threads around this subject!

    One that would definitely fit in here is what I saw on BBC Breakfast this morning. They had some schoolgirls in football strips on a football pitch talking about some footballers preference for eating other footballers. Could not believe how fat all those kids were. Assuming they were actually running about regularly with the football, something must be seriously wrong with their diets.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    "something must be seriously wrong with their diets"

    There seems to be something of a move to 'blame the food industry' rather than kids/parents.

    But one problem is still the whole exercise = sport convention and little done - comprehensively, coherently, holistically (etc.) about 'active travel'.

    There is to be a new dance studio at Liberton High. The background to this of course is a real tragedy, but encouraging a form of 'exercise' that is fun and enjoyable can only be good. (The school already has an MTB track!)

    "

    A DANCE studio is to built in honour of Keane Wallis-Bennett at her former school as part of plans which will see the gym hall where she died demolished.

    Dancing was one of the 12-year-old Liberton High pupil’s passions and the £150,000 studio will help to keep her spirit alive by providing her former classmates with high-class facilities.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/education/dance-studio-tribute-to-keane-wallis-bennett-1-3455838

    Posted 11 years ago #
  18. holisticglint
    Member

    I think there is a nice symmetry between increasing the amount of incidental exercise (active travel) and reducing the amount of incidental calories (why does my beans on toast have more sugar in it than my doughnuts?)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  19. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Me, a year ago: "Aye, both important. I'm a very good example of someone who enjoys pizza far too often.

    Cycle 130 miles a week, and still 3 stone overweight."

    Me now:

    Cycle 200 miles a week, and still 2 stone overweight.

    I probably need another 140 miles a week from somewhere, I still like pizza. ;)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    Diet/sugar now on R4 you and yours

    'Cut sugar from 10% to 5%'

    Reporter - 'most young people already more than 10%'

    Posted 11 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

    "
    Cut recommended sugar intake by half, says SACN report

    "

    http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/358903.article

    Posted 11 years ago #

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