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Friction zones and public spaces

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  1. SRD
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    Friction zones and emergent publics in Stockholm parklife

    Finding ways to deal with friction zones in public spaces such as parks is highly pertinent for both urban democracy and urban sustainability. Some friction is central to genuine democracy, whereas too little or too much is not.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. Morningsider
    Member

    In summary - how do you reconcile competing, sometimes incompatible, uses of public space in a democratic society?

    It's no wonder policy makers generally ignore academics when they produce stuff like this - hundreds of words describing a situation most people are aware of and no suggestion as to how it might be resolved.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    Some people do not like any friction at all. It is nice to be nice.

    Others thrive on friction and see it as an agent for change

    For example

    If academics could implement changes in society toward the more needy then something would be done about them.

    As it says on the grave in highgate

    Philosophers have often sought to interpret the world
    The point however is to change it

    that's what I love about rod Stewart's dad, a revolutionary to his very soul
    (also buried in highgate with large but possibly less tasteful funeral statue)

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. SRD
    Moderator

    @morningsider, if I read it right, they don't make suggestions because they;re saying nothing is wrong. instead they're suggesting that that 'frictin' is important? more gembo's territory than mine tho

    the thing too many marxists didnt get is that you need to understand the world (thank you charles taylor) before being able to change it. otherwise, you're likely to make it bad, just in a different way.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. crowriver
    Member

    you need to understand the world (thank you charles taylor) before being able trying to change it

    FTFY

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. Instography
    Member

    Marx's point was that philosophers think that it's enough to interpret the world not that you should change it without understanding. He reckoned he'd understood it enough (well, him and Hegel) to see that it would inevitably change itself.

    But I'm afraid I can't read stuff written in sociologese.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. SRD
    Moderator

    Yes, marx got that, but most marxists don't....

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. Instography
    Member

    Yeah but Marx famously didn't even recognise his contemporary Marxists as Marxists. These days Marxists are to Marx what many Christians might be to Jesus (if Jesus had actually existed).

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. SRD
    Moderator

    true on both counts (and i'm probably both)

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. Roibeard
    Member

    @Inst - didn't we burn you once today already?

    <shrug> I can't speak for Marx, but I'm sure Jesus existed...

    Robert

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. Instography
    Member

    Sorry, I was just being silly.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. gembo
    Member

    I was being silly too as I know many academics doing good work and many practitioners (myself included) who are trying to change the system from within but who on dark days get the feeling that they are the system.

    No friction resulted, how disappointing

    hownaboutthis - I don't think Marx is the author of the quote on his tombstone, ,probably Proudhon or de Tocqueville. Karl was quite adept at disguised plagiarism and self promotion

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. Roibeard
    Member

    @Inst - no offence taken on my part...

    Robert

    Posted 12 years ago #

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