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Two Years in Prison

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  • Started 12 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
  • Latest reply from chdot

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  1. For scribbling on a Rothko,. I may be biased as I personally think Rothko is a ridiculous waste of artistic discussion, but. Two years???

    Okay, deliberate act, malice aforethought etc etc etc. But in certain circumstances we do seem to find ourselves favouring inanimate objects over the lives of people...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. Min
    Member

    What's a Rothko and who scribbled on it?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    WC: "malice aforethought"

    Much as I can see some point in on-line anonymity the ability to trace anti-cycling vitriol to people found guilty of injuring cyclists while driving might ramp up the punishments given out. And that would be a good thing if this account of a speed awareness course is anything to go by.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Modern art.

    Was scrawled on by a wannabee modern art critic, self-proclaimed founder of a modern art movement called "yellowism".

    It goes to show, you may run over cyclists or build golf courses on SSSIs, but make sure you don't mess with the establishment.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. minus six
    Member

    Dada is not dead !

    Watch your overcoat

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. steveo
    Member

  7. cc
    Member

    Rothko = megabucks

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. Baldcyclist
    Member

    I bought a large Rothko print when I moved into my first flat. About 15 years later I discovered I had hung it upside down!

    Now, it takes pride of place in the Guest room, still upside down. Well, I like it that way!

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  9. wee folding bike
    Member

    A guy on BBC Scotland used to call that kind of picture phoney art… or fart.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. Baldcyclist
    Member

    even more poignant when you see stuff like this...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20725496

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. wee folding bike
    Member

    Baldy,

    Funnily enough that's just what I put on my Facebooks.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    This has nothing to do with modern art. Cyclists are viewed as road-kill by the law. I don't understand why cycling hasn't developed a militant wing by now.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. PS
    Member

    Quite right that people get incarcerated for damaging/destroying great works of art (I do like a good Rothko - I've spent ages staring at the ones in MOMA and the National Gallery). If they weren't then it'd be open season at the galleries.

    Inanimate objects are human culture made flesh (so to speak). Take them away and what's the bloody point of it all? Arguably, future generations would miss them more than a few individuals...

    However, I presume this is a thread to make a point about the lamentable sentences handed out to bad/careless/incompetent drivers rather than a suggestion that we should all be allow to trash Picasso's Guernica?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. Min
    Member

    Yes.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  15. Smudge
    Member

    "even the quiet law-abiding cyclist like me who only rides very slowly through red lights"

    Posted 12 years ago #
  16. @PS Yep. Although we need to hav an argument about Rothko in particular, and modern art in general, at some point...

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  17. PS
    Member

    @WC We can have that argument, but you won't get much more coherent from me than that staring at those Rothkos in the flesh I feel touched emotionally. Don't know why. It's like the late Turners, but more so, because at least you know Turner is depicting *something*...

    Anyways, I should correct my reference to "lamentable sentences" to "lamentable verdicts" and direct the blame to juries who take pity on drivers because they can imagine themselves doing the same thing (there but for the grace of god...) whereas they would never do the same thing for a guy vandalising a painting, because they'd never do it themselves.

    I know trial by jury is seen as a pillar of our society, but my experience as a juror gave me no confidence in the system at all.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

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    APPCG (@allpartycycling)
    14/12/2012 19:11
    @grumpy_cyclist @citycyclists we will be exploring sentencing during our Inquiry. Evidence sessions start in mid January.

    Posted 12 years ago #

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