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Princes St vs George St vs Queen St

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  1. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I had always assumed it was named for two Princes, rather than being the posession of a single Prince.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. PS
    Member

    @Arellcat On that basis, I'd have thought Princes Street should have no more reason to include an apostrophe than St Giles Street. It's named to honour the princes rather than to indicate that it is "the street of the princes".

    Thinking of other examples: The King's Road in Chelsea has an apostrophe because it started out as the private road of the king.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  3. amir
    Member

    I work at the King's Buildings (not sure of the connection with the King).

    Posted 11 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

  5. Arellcat
    Moderator

    @PS, I was quoting CBW's own text. Since the other two thoroughfares aren't known as "George's Street" and "Queen's Street", I would also question the need for an apostrophe after "Princes".

    Where would it end? Does one live in Queen's Ferry?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  6. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Brunt's Field?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  7. steveo
    Member

    Just whose house is Broom('s)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  8. Dudding's Ton was clearly remarkable enough to have an area named after it, but a ton of what???

    Posted 11 years ago #
  9. PS
    Member

    @Arellcat I kind of assumed that wasn't your natural voice ;)

    I've not seen "aught" written down for a while - I'd probably spell it "owt" now :)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Steveo, no-one's. It was actually named after Broom House, which stood for many years where now is the border between Forrester and St Augustine's RC high schools. The house was named for its crop of broom.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. PS
    Member

    While we're rewriting road signs, can we petition for directional road names to re-acquire the definite article?

    The London Road
    The Glasgow Road
    The Dalkeith Road
    etc

    Posted 11 years ago #
  12. steveo
    Member

    Steveo, no-one's.

    Interesting, Thats quite a long way from the estate though.

    Ok who was Sten :D, if he's not a Viking I'm going to be disappointed.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  13. wingpig
    Member

    How many kings? How many stables? The stable or stables owned by the king or the stable of stables in which king or kings were stabled? The road on which the stables were on or the road of the stables, however many thereof there were?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  14. Uberuce
    Member

    The quaint historical streetname whose story most intrigues me is South Gyle Access.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  15. Jackson Priest
    Member

    Similarly, Uberuce, I often ask myself: after what long ago romantic tale of derring-do was Costkea Way named?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  16. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Wingpig, one king: James III, as far as I can determine. There was a Royal Charter in 1477 prohibiting sale of certain livestock. There was also an earlier Queen's Stables, at West Port (itself short for West Portsburgh, but that's another story).

    Uberuce, it's a more prosaic answer than you were perhaps hoping for. :)

    South Gyle Farm's buildings once occupied all of this set of houses, but the farm access was from South Gyle Road's junction with (now) South Gyle Mains.

    In the early 1980s when the former Gyle Muir was becoming developed, 'South Gyle' initially referred to the area enclosed by South Gyle Broadway and South Gyle Crescent, and access to there was provided by the eponymous link road.

    There was of course a North Gyle Farm as well, and it survives albeit in a heavily rebuilt form. See, it's all actually really interesting.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    "
    PLANS to revamp traffic flow in the city centre by creating a one-way system along George Street have been approved.

    The famous shopping thoroughfare will become one-way for motorists with a lane dedicated to vehicles travelling west to east and a two-way cycle lane on the other side of the street from late July.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/one-way-plan-paves-way-for-george-st-cafe-culture-1-3389829

    Posted 10 years ago #
  18. LivM
    Member

    One hopes that the pavement will be wider on the north side too, allowing pavement-diners to sit in the sun, not just on the southern side near the cyclists.

    Although I'd rather sit on the side near the cyclists than the side near the vehicles to eat my lunch-in-the-sun. Perhaps they should knock down some buildings on the south side that are blocking the sun?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  19. gkgk
    Member

    @LivD, story says they're widening north pavement, yes.

    EN-reading driver response in the comments bit is enjoyably muted.

    Posted 10 years ago #

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