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  1. Chug
    Member

    At Wickes Gorgie, the small rail round the side of the front door/porch thing works for a D-lock. I've seen the odd few bikes locked up there. But "proper" parking would be good.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    @SRD

    You're not suggesting that 'active' CCEers can't be Spokes members too!(?)

    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. SRD
    Moderator

    no, but not all spokes members are CCE

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. neddie
    Member

    @arellcat

    I like that technique of walking into the store.

    Perhaps one should just walk the bike into any store that has inadequate parking & wait for the reaction?

    At that point you can explain politely, 'there's nowhere to park...', 'is my custom not valued because I came by bike?'

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. Tulyar
    Member

    "eddie_h I don't use any stores that don't let me take the Brompton inside. In B&Q and Wickes I take bike & trailer inside and around the aisles, as it can be handy when carrying big items to check-out

    At Lidl, and Farmfoods I take in the bike & trailer and park it at the check-out loading shelf/area. Last visit to Aldi was only time I got hassled not to wheel the bike around the store, but to leave it by check-outs.

    Tesco's new store in the old Littlewoods building on Sauchiehall Street is remarkably bike sanguine compared to normal Tesco attitude.

    The 5p bag tax means that bringing bike and luggage/trailer in to the store I load directly from the check-out into my own bags.

    Sainsbury on Woodlands Road used to get most of my local supermarket calls but a nasty junior manager, who effectively assaulted a neighbour who absent mindedly walked across the petrol forecourt taking a phone call, and had an equally hostile attitude to my placing the bike at the front window, so I could see it from inside the store, effectively denied them any future business - the milk is actually cheaper at the local asian-run grocers, who also know their local customers better and thus have fresher vegetables, for sale in loose form rather than pre-packs which you cannot check without opening.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. Tulyar
    Member

    PS also take the bike in to Maplins 2 main Glasgow stores, Crockatts (hardware - better than a hike out to B&Q) Screwfix/Tool Station (including trailer).

    But of course one has to remember that like all those who know they have 'arrived' the efficient customer does not waste their time going to the shop but instead has their shopping delivered. A Brompton equipped family I know in Derby, who have never owned a car, swear by the facility to order almost all the bulky weekly consumables, and diy materials, for free delivery and have whittled this down to those providing services that guarantee a tightly set time slot.

    Here is surely a way that Spokes and CCE can drive a local economic revolution. Build up on the local and delivered model and introduce this with cycle-based delivery operations. A friend in N London has her family organic vegetables box delivered by cargo bike operated by the local supplier, who covers a moderate area with this service.

    Caveat on home deliveries http://www.cvengineer.com/resources/home_delivery_home_truths.pdf

    Might post this separately

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    "If possible please complete the survey by end of March."

    I presume someone is having a fun Easter putting this all together.

    Anyone here involved?

    I assume Spokesers/CCEers have managed to cover the bike parking at all the Edinburgh superishstores and a good selection of the 'metros'.

    BUT

    "We are now embarking on a – hopefully – more comprehensive project to survey bike parking and access, and how it could be improved, at as many local supermarkets as possible in Edinburgh and the Lothians." (Original Spokes story)

    So - that's the whole of Lothian PLUS access.

    There was a mini campaign on here about the (then) new signs at the Canonmills Tesco.

    That store also has the notorious/useless red 'designer' wall-mounted bike 'facility'.

    More importantly the access/priority for pedestrians/cyclists is poor.

    The opening of Rodney Street Tunnel didn't lead to any improvements. There remains the muddy desire line through the 'hedge'.

    I've put photos on here before, but now plan to take some more of a slightly wider area to show the problem/opportunity.

    Are there any other stores 'on' cyclepaths where access is as bad/worse?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. wingpig
    Member

    Asda Jewel is just off a bike path, with an access slope, but you're on your own through the car park. Asda Newhaven is very close to the end of the NEPN but requires crossing Lindsay Road, using the crossing which is next to the steps, not the slope, on the south side. LIDL Dalry has the path behind it, from which the store cannot be accessed without steps. Craigleith Sainsbury waggles it tongue at the NEPN across the car park.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    "actively discourage cyclists from shopping at Sainsburys"

    http://www.citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1324

    Posted 9 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    Not forgetting another Canonmills 'access' issue.

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5934

    I'm sure CEC thinks the Rodney Street Tunnel has 'solved' this one!

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

  12. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Thought.

    Is it just Waitrose at Comely Bank that uses the surrounding streets as the defacto van park for their home delivery vehicles or are there others? I know Tesco at Corstorphine makes a habit of using the double yellows street outside for parking up their artics before they enter the deliveries compound.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. wingpig
    Member

    If you're in the NEPN and want to go to Morrison's on Ferry Road, or just like to know about escape routes, the City Park cut-through is less glass-infested than the slope up to the road next to Ainslie Park, but the bollards might not let a long or wide cycle through:

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    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. All that space in front of the new Easter Road Lidl and only 5 racks?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    Indeed.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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