"Yeah, it's from the RVLR (whichever year) which is the authority behind those bits of "MUST" in the HC."
Only at night though(?)
Am I making up the bit about age of bike?
CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Debate!
Indicating / signalling
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Posted 14 years ago #
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@Dave
"However, I don't quite follow your point as a whole. The reason people find it dodgy that drivers are advised not to signal is precisely because so many (all?) drivers sometimes (often/always?) fall below the standards we might wish for."
The point you are missing is that Advanced are taught to look and then decide if a sign is need. Sadly many driver don't understand the need to look! They think it enough to merely signal, this is one of the areas where a law of strict liability would help, as a drivers could no longer get a way with saying they did see the cyclist, as they would still be liable.
"Here's the nub: I don't want bus drivers to be squinting in their mirrors trying to judge how fast I'm going to decide whether or not to indicate before pulling out."
The point is if you are there then the driver not pull out, again it is this point about observation.
"I once asked an advanced driving instructor whether he would support manually-activated brake lights which the driver could switch on "only if it was of benefit to another road user" at which point he changed the subject!"
When driving in day light, I find switching on the lights has the desired effect.
"Just because it's taught doesn't make it uncontroversial. Take for example the way that so many people ride around the very edge of roundabouts* - but it's not called the zone of death for nothing."
The problem here is that most people aren't taught how to cycle on roundabouts. The key here is to ride in a primary position. The advice in the HC of walking your cycle round on the pavement or verge is actually quite dangerous.
Maybe when cycle starts to be taken seriously as a means of transport by the politicians, we will see the HC being rewritten in a sensible manor, but I don't see it happening any time soon.
Posted 14 years ago # -
Thread mentioned by Tom Morton
A listener apparently 'absentmindedly' signalled and the realised she wasn't on her bike...
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The above post reminds me... A couple of weeks ago I was pushing my two kids in their pram - a big double buggy - right up Middle Meadow Walk and heading towards George IV bridge.
As I crossed Teviot Place towards the little Starbucks on Forrest Road, rather than crossing all the way over to the pavement, I instinctively pushed the pram into the painted cycle lane. After about 10 yards I realised I was pushing a pram, not cycling my bike!
People must've been thinking 'why is that eejit is pushing his pram in the cycle lane?!?!' Needless to say I felt a bit daft.
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"People must've been thinking 'why is that eejit is pushing his pram in the cycle lane?!?!' "
Don't think so - no-one seems to realise it's a cycle path!
"Needless to say I felt a bit daft."
Why - pram has wheels too!
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