@iwrats First step may be to wrest Inch House from the rather unlikely political party into whose hands it has fallen.
UKIP? Surely not.
CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Debate!
Modal shift - potential/reality
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Posted 8 years ago #
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@iwrats maintenance isn't perfect ( I also took action myself to clear a path...)
But compared to when I moved here, it's much much better. Lady Susan's walk didn't exist (at least not the entrance, you had to walk all the way around to the recycling centre to get in), and there were usually a couple of burned out cars that weren't removed for months. Still the occasional motorbike now but no longer the regular gangs every weekend.
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@Laidback Bridgend community farm will hopefully develop into an alternative.
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@LaidBack
That would be too beautiful.
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"and a short footpath (along the mud desire line) that connects these to the existing footpaths at Glenallan Drive/Dinmont Drive"
ABOUT TIME TOO!!
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"is this how the forum is supposed to work?"
Well you'd hope so, but some recent posts should perhaps be here -
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For modal shift to happen attitudes need to change. It made me smile yesterday, when discussing the new cycle path proposal. My friend said slightly disapprovingly of someone opposed to it -"they're very car dependant you know". My friend's more 'normal' than me, drives sometimes, cycles occasionally, but she gets it.
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@IWRATS, "I'd guess that the main issue is the association of car use with social aspiration. "
Maybe in the 1960s/70s. Nowadays driving a car is just normal. Any other transport mode is abnormal and/or lower status, e.g.. taking the bus, cycling.
That said, Edinburgh is a bit exceptional in the Scottish context: walking, taking the bus and even cycling are much more normal than in most other places.
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"they're very car dependant you know"
If only there was a cure.
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"If only there was a cure."
Apparently, it's electric cars. The methadone of motoring.
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I was reading Cleaner Air For Scotland and note on page 42 that if every bus journey (9%) suddenly became a cycle journey (1%), then 10% of journeys would be by bike.
This illustrates the scale of the challenge the government faces and highlights how little they're doing to actually achieve the 10%.
A nice metaphor for the general public?
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Ah, but according to economic development supremo Cllr Ross, it's not about cycling, "t's about local communities,the elderly,those with mobility issues, public transport etc."
So there. That's us telt. I mean, who can possibly argue against the interests of "local communities,the elderly,those with mobility issues, public transport etc." ? The very idea!
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"Mobility issues", see my comment on the other thread about the Equality Act. If protected bike lanes allow disability scooters then making them route the long way around or mixing with traffic could be seen as discriminatory and/or unsafe. Same for disabled people on bikes/trikes.
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Modal shift may be slow in Poland where the guv'mint has just condemned;
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Surprised sandal wearing not also included?
Fascinating article on Poland though. The guy. Who is the president claims Poland is run by former communists and is not free, yet he is the president. When he cannot find enemies at home he looks abroad.
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@gembo
I'd come here if I was Polish. Use windmills to battle religion & co.
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the latest Annual Cycling Monitoring report is out http://www.cyclingscotland.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/2892-Annual-Monitoring-Report-2016-00000002.pdf
From what I can see, there has been a miniscule uptick in overall cycling levels and a slightly larger increase in the amount of kms cycled. They do seem to have scratched around a bit to find some statistics that look like success, but perhaps that's me being cynical. The headline measure of '1.4%' appears to be those using cycling as their main/usual mode of travel, rather than actual mode share and it bounces around quite a lot, from year to year, suggesting that there's quite a large margin of error.
The figures are mostly based on the Scottish Household Surveys which, if I recall correctly, might only include 100 or so households per local authority area, so I'm taking the local authority levels with a pinch of salt.
Overall you could say that there has been a small but noticeable increase in spending on cycling in recent years, which has resulted in a small and possibly illusory increase in cycling levels.
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"so I'm taking the local authority levels with a pinch of salt"
Well I find this hard to believe -
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Cycling locally
Cycling as a main mode of travel is highest in Dundee [4.2%], Edinburgh [4.2%] and Orkney Islands [3.4%]."
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"Surprised sandal wearing not also included?"
You forgot the hand-knitted tofu. Or maybe it would be organic free trade quinoa these days?
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